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« on: March 20, 2008, 07:28:00 PM »

Here is a pictoral version of how I harvest my BBS.  I use a completely DIY system (I buy the eggs of course) and used to do the messy bright light with turkey baster thing, but this way is sooo much easier, more efficient (you get more shrimp) and cleaner (both water and empty shells).

First, I hatch the BBS in a 2L pop bottle set in the aquarium  I put an air tube in right to the bottom and keep the eggs moving and I also keep a light on them.  I hatch for 24 hrs or so (make a batch up after feeding at night, then harvest that batch the next night).

Once the hatching is complete, I harvest.  First off, I took a 2L pop bottle and cut the bottom off.  I took the cap off and drilled a small hole into the cap and, using aquarium silicone, "glued" a long piece of airline tubing into the hole.  I made sure the airline tubing was flush with the inside of the cap.  Next, I took a second 2L pop bottle and cut the top off.  This is my "base" that I set the first pop bottle into for stability.  I cut a tiny hole in the side bottom of the "base" for the airline tubing to come out through. In the first picture, you can see my setup; the second is a more close-up view of the harvesting pop bottles.




I make sure the airline tubing is tethered higher than the harvesting bottle so the brine won't flow out the tubing until I'm ready for it.  



Honorable mention to Mutant, my cat.  He loves it when I look after the fish because he's always in my face the whole time.  This is 'his' room I have the fry tank in!

So now, I pour the brine and BBS into the harvesting bottle.  The person I got this whole idea from doesn't hatch in a separate bottle; he hatches and harvests in the harvesting bottle using the airline tubing to pump air into the bottle during hatching and then removes it from the air pump to harvest.  I just personally found this way easier so I don't have to keep removing the tubing from the base bottle...  Besides, how much does a 2L pop bottle really cost? (about 5 cents around here...)



I like to put the airline tubing which is close to the harvesting bottle over a piece of white paper - allows for more reflection of the light.  You should be able to see some of the brine move into the tubing - but not too much; adjust the height of the end of the airline tubing to keep only a few inches of the tubing filled.



Lastly, I place a light-tight cardboard box over the bottle with the airline tubing coming out the bottom.  I found the P+ cracker box fit just about perfectly over the 2L bottles.  I cut the top flaps off, made a little nick in one side to set over the tubing and place it over the bottles.  I put a bright light over the white paper and leave it for an hour or two.



So now I've had supper, cleared away the dishes, probably watched the news... time to feed the fry.  When I come back I see the peachy colored BBS swimming away in the airline tubing over top of the white paper.  You can't see many in my picture because I'm only hatching a very tiny amount - I'm only feeding about 15 fry right now.  When you hatch a regular amount for a large spawn, you'll see them clearly.



Now, I filter the BBS from the brine using a coffee filter placed in a dollar-store funnel, catching the effluent from the funnel in a cup.  I place the end of the airline tubing in the filter/funnel, then lower the funnel below the level of the harvesting bottles.  The brine with the BBS in it flows quickly out of the tubing into the filter.  I usually run at least the length of the tubing of brine twice in order to get all the BBS out of the tubing.  Most of the shells are still remaining in the harvesting bottle while the BBS are in the filter.  I rinse them off with fresh water (R/O because that's what I use in the fry tanks), then either rinse the filter off into the tank (Or a bowl) or gently float the filter face down on the surface of the water and rinse it off that way.




I drain out the remaining brine, back into my hatching bottle, add the filter effluent to the bottle, add more BBS eggs and start all over again.  I rinse out the harvesting bottles and airline tubing - if you drain it out through the tubing, alot of the shells stay stuck to the sides of the bottle and it keeps the brine cleaner that way.

And voila, happy fry, clean workspace, and easily accomplished


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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2008, 10:13:00 PM »

Wow! I get it now! hehe http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /> I'm a visual learner http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /> That's a brilliant setup I'm itching to adopt. Thanks Heather for posting it up for us! Now to get the family to drink a couple litres and eat some crackers... Actually I think we just threw out the box. I guess I'll have to scavenge for a similarly sized one.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 07:17:00 AM »

EXCELLENT POST!  This is probably the best I have ever seen for BBS hatching and collecting.  I know it will be a big help to people starting out.  

       

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 10:23:00 AM »

I agree with Kim!  Thanks for taking the time to show us!

Can you tell us the amounts of water and salt and eggs you put in for the best hatching rates?  That is the problem I have with BBS.  Everyone says different amounts...  

       

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 10:52:00 AM »

Quote from: clefty date=1206116580
Can you tell us the amounts of water and salt and eggs you put in for the best hatching rates?  That is the problem I have with BBS.  Everyone says different amounts...
You know, I don't really know  http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />   I guess I generally follow Waynes-this-and-that site http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/brineshrimp.htm.  I would guess that I probably put about 1/2 litre of water in, with 1/2 tablespoon of salt and 1 tsp of baking soda to raise the pH (my tap water is about 6.4)

Tricks I have learned:

1. use alkaline water.  Seems to make a difference more than salt.
2. Float the hatchery in the aquarium, securing it to the side so it can't tip over (I will use a small hex aquarium sitting inside the main aquarium to float it in so the salt is less likely to contaminate the main tank.  This is another reaon I use an un-cut pop bottle to hatch in - it's less likely to tip and I'm less likely to drop it in the water.  Did that to my dragon fry just before their first BBS feed and had to do an emergency 100% w/c on them - fortunately I didn't lose any!). The temp of the tank water is just right
3. Keep light on it all the time.  I've tried hatching with the light off at night and got just about nil hatch rate
4. gentle air flow in the hatchery - too much and the eggs splash up onto the sides, not enough and they sink to the bottom.
5. Use however much eggs you think you will need.  Right now I'm only feeding a little over a dozen fry.  I put in enough eggs so that when they spread out on the top of the water it is about dime-sized.  When I was feeding 100+ fry last fall, I was putting in about 1/4 tsp of eggs.
6. When the brine gets really full of egg shells, filter it with a coffee filter and funnel.  You can keep using the brine for ages.  The added fresh water you rinse the BBS with will make up for any evaporation losses if you do it right   http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />  

       

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 11:05:00 AM »

thanks!  yeah I like wayne's site as well http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

I'm eager to try this method as it seems quite well-thought-out!  good job...  

       

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 07:41:00 PM »

Still too much work for me http://209.85.62.26/html/emoticons/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' />
All I do is take a mason jar, add some eggs, salt and airstone. For the mason jar I use about half a tbs of salt. Next day I pour it all into the SFB Brine Shrimp Hatchery (Best thing I ever bought FYI!!!). You fill the little cup with fresh water and sit it on top, the shrimp swim through the little hole from the salt water and into the freshwater and then you just take it off and pour it in. No rinsing, straining or fussing! I use SFB eggs as well, excellent hatch rate.  

       

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 08:34:00 PM »

Great post. Thanks. I think I will try it.  I now use the BBS hatcher but it's only good for a small hatch.
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