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« on: December 03, 2009, 05:57:56 PM »

Sorry Ian, I only saw that I had a message tonight!  But, as requested, here is how I decapsulate my brine shrimp eggs. (Acknowledgements have to go to Zena who did the base write up - I only adjusted it to what I do and added my own observations)

What you need:
- brine shrimp eggs
- 1 Gallon ice cream tub (empty)
- 1 cup of bleach
- lots of salt
- lots of dechlorinator
- lots of coffee filters
- a timer
- bottle/container for storage

Steps:

1) Put  brine shrimp eggs into the ice cream tub and fill that with about one cup of cool/cold tap water. Let it sit for at least an hour (OK for up to 8 hours). This rehydrates the dry eggs and softens the shell so the bleach will penetrate. This step is CRUCIAL or the bleach won’t be able to get through the shell.

2) Put about 1 teaspoon of salt (you can use regular table salt) into the cup (apparently it stops the eggs from clumping later on). Add bleach. Start your timer to count down 3 minutes.

3) Stir the mixture continuously, you'll see the shell dissolving, light foam may form, and the eggs color change from dark brown to a grayish then to an orangey. This is a chemical reaction, and the reaction releases heat. Feel the temperature of the tub...if it gets warm, do this in a cold water bath. Too warm water can destroy the eggs and you won't be able to hatch them.

4) When 3 minutes is up, and the eggs are about the same color as hatched BBS would normally be, fill the tub with cold water.  Stir and let the eggs settle to the bottom.  Use a turkey baster to siphon the solution from the eggs – you will likely only be able to get down to an inch or two of water.  Repeat this step many, many times.  An alternative would be if you have a Brine Shrimp net – then you can pour the whole mixture into the filter/net and then rinse, rinse, rinse and rinse under cold tap water.  The idea is to get rid of the bleach as quickly as possible.  I found that coffee filters at this stage just simply dissolved from the bleach and you end up with a messy situation.

5) Add a good capful of dechlorinator, give it a good swirl. And rinse, rinse, rinse and rinse some more!

6) Filter the eggs from the remaining water.

7) Make a fully saturated brine solution with aquarium salt (I actually use the brine from my water softener since it’s always fully saturated and easy to get).  Add the rinsed eggs.  The brine will preserve the eggs by sucking out all the water from the eggs. Keep this in the fridge.

7) To take some out for hatching, I simply suck up a half tsp or so of the eggs in the brine solution using one of those pipettes from the aquarium test kits.  I add it directly to the brine solution of the hatchery.

a few notes...

1) The more you do it the more it becomes second nature, you'll notice the color difference much easier after trying it a few times.

2) Smell for bleach. If you smell bleach, rinse again! Never hurt to dump a bit of dechlorinator into the storage bottle either.

3)    Things that make decap a failure
-   didn't hydrate (yup).
-   bleach water got too warm. If this happens, reduce the amount of eggs you decap in a batch.
-   bleached for too long.
-   leftover bleach slowly destroys the eggs in storage.
-   storage brine wasn't salty enough, and eggs went bad.
-   eggs were bad to begin with (although I did it with REALLY old eggs that had been in my refrigerator for more than a year and they did fine).

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 09:03:19 PM »

Appreciate this so much.  I have some very old eggs that just don't hatch.  I figured I may as well try them.

How many eggs do you tend to decapsulate at a time?  I have probably 10 to 15 grams of old eggs to try this on.  Think that will be too many for this setup?


Also...after the hydration, do I pour out the water before adding the bleach or just add bleach to the mix?  I have a brine shrimp net.  The shells literally dissolve right?  I don't have to worry about also filtering out the shells with the eggs?

Finally:  how long do the eggs take to hatch once you go to hatch them, and how much salt would you add to the hatching water if you used a cup of water to hatch in (I usually just toss some random amount of aquarium salt in and maybe 1/4 the time the salinity isn't right for hatching).  Thanks!!!

-Ian
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 11:34:16 AM »

I have some very old eggs that just don't hatch.  I figured I may as well try them.

Yep. That's what made me try it and my old eggs went from a less than 40% hatch rate to a nearly 100% hatch rate.

How many eggs do you tend to decapsulate at a time?  I have probably 10 to 15 grams of old eggs to try this on.  Think that will be too many for this setup?

I have done about 3 Tablespoonsful of eggs at a time.  You might want to start with a smaller amount at first just in case it doesn't work and you have to perfect your technique.  As well, if you don't have a lot of fry to feed, you probably don't want to do too much at a time - they obviously won't stay dormant for ever after decapsulation.

Also...after the hydration, do I pour out the water before adding the bleach or just add bleach to the mix? 

Nope, I just add an equal amount of bleach to the water.  I use fresh water to hydrate, then add salt and let it dissolve.  Then I add the bleach and start stirring.

I have a brine shrimp net.  The shells literally dissolve right?  I don't have to worry about also filtering out the shells with the eggs?


If you have a brine shrimp net, life will be soooo much easier (can I get one off the site yet?  I'd love to have one).  Just empty the whole bleach mixture into the net to strain them out, then rinse, rinse, rinse, rinse etc.  It will take much less time than what I do with stirring and siphoning off the mixture/water.  And yes, the shells completely dissolve so no need to worry about separating them.

Finally:  how long do the eggs take to hatch once you go to hatch them, and how much salt would you add to the hatching water if you used a cup of water to hatch in (I usually just toss some random amount of aquarium salt in and maybe 1/4 the time the salinity isn't right for hatching).
 

I hatch them exactly the same way I hatched them before decapsulating.  I use the same saturated brine (just because it's easy to get at) but have used a mixture of about two Tablespoons of salt to approx. 1 Litre of water.  The big thing I have found is that if you add Baking soda to the brine to raise the pH they hatch much better.  When I don't use the Baking soda I never get good hatch rates (my water has a low pH).  I remember reading somewhere that the pH of the brine matters more than anything else.  I have been hatching them without light and just sitting on my counter (and the house goes down to 60F at night now that it's winter).  After 24 hours of aggitation, I simply filter the whole solution out using coffee filters and a funnel.  Since the shells are all dissolved, it doesn't matter whether I only catch live BBS - I can harvest everything in there.  All I need to do is separate them from the brine. (I've also been storing the extra hatched BBS in the fridge in regular water for about 12 hours.  They still seem to go for them the next morning.  Means I only have to do one hatch each day rather than two).

I noticed that the last two hatchings I've done (maybe the last week or so) haven't done well... the decapsulated eggs are at least 2 months old now, so it's possible that they are starting to "die" on me.  I'm going to try keeping the light on next time to see if that helps.  This will be my last hatch on this batch of eggs anyway - there's only enough left for one more  Sad The nice thing is that even if they don't hatch, the fry can eat them.  I find the older fry don't seem to care if they are hatched or not.  The younger ones still seem to need the wriggling to stimulate them to eat though.

Note on brine.... As I mentioned, I use the brine from my water softener.  I also use the water softener salt rather than aquarium salt for all my fish needs.  I buy a big bag of pelleted salt for about $5.  I drop a pellet or two (each pellet is about 1 tsp) into the 5 Gallon tanks whenever I think they need salt (ie fin rot, parasites, doing poorly, etc) and it dissolves itself.  The fish even seem to like it - I've seen them swim through the bubbles it creates as if they like it.  To make a good brine solution, take a container, fill it with water and add enough salt to more than cover the bottom.  You will have a saturated brine solution if there is still salt sitting on the bottom of the container.  To use the brine, simply decant the brine off the salt into another container.  Then you can use the left-over salt to make your next brine solution (although I use mine over and over again... I just add fresh water to it to compensate for evaporation.  Once it gets grungy looking I'll toss it and start with new).
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 09:30:28 PM »

Wooty Woot!!!

I just decapsulated my first batch today.  They were 6gm of eggs that had been lying around my house *unopened and at room temperature* for at least 6 months.  The process outlined here by Heather seems to have worked like a charm!  It turned white then orange in about 3 or 4 minutes.  I noticed that some still leaked through the brine shrimp net so I always poured over an extra jar once to save as many as I could.

I have them sitting in a brine solution that has extra salt crystals undissolved so by all intents and purposes should be saturated.

I'll try hatching them tomorrow when I go back to my place tomorrow.

Heather, PM me your address and I'll send you a free brine shrimp net as a thank you!

Have you ever used vinegar in the process to neutralize the bleach (as I've read in others)?

-Ian
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 06:35:53 AM »


Have you ever used vinegar in the process to neutralize the bleach (as I've read in others)?

-Ian

No - I never saw that before.  What a good idea!  Maybe I'll have to try it next time....
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 09:53:53 PM »

Yep I might try it next time.  Would be a quick way to neutralize the base aspect of the bleach anyways!

-Ian
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